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Recording Face to Face, In-Person Interviews for a Podcast

While the world seems to be moving towards more virtual interviews, the face-to-face chat is still one of the best ways to really get to know someone. When you carry out an interview in person you can really tease out individual stories and personal experience.

And, that's not to mention the fact that you're not relying on Voice over IP connections, and so you can really guarantee a great audio quality. I say guarantee, but, actually, audio quality is far from easy to maintain in a public setting.

In this article I'm going to cover one of the easiest ways to record an interview in the field, really concentrating on a balance of ease of use and quality. This means I wont be talking about complicated iPad, USB mic, mixer setups, but just the most simple, reliable, cost effective method I know of, and one that I use all the time.

If, on the other hand, you are looking for the best quality interview kit you can get, you might like my series of articles on the subject. Check out my Gold Standard Podcast Interview Equipment series here.

What Type of Interviewing is This For?

Lapel Microphone for podcastingFirst off, a quick qualification of what we're talking about here. There are three main places where you might record an interview: 1. online, 2. in your standard studio or 3. out in the field.

I've covered 1 elsewhere – just check out my Skype Interviewing article for more information. Number 2 should be pretty straight forward – if you're a regular podcaster then you'll know your standard kit. Just add an extra microphone to the mixer, the PC or whatever you're recording into, and go. You'll have access to mic stands, etc, so you can use your normal kit.

Number 3, though, is a little more complicated. This only really became apparent to me after all the questions I was asked at UKPOD14 on that very subject. Recording on the move requires a few particular things.

  1. Light and portable – you need to be able to carry this kit around, so out go bulky mixers, heavy microphones and unwieldy stands.
  2. Noise isolation – you might well be recording in a noisy environment so you need to be able to get the mic up close to the speakers' mouths.
  3. Simplicity – this needs to be point and shoot. You wont have the space or the time to spend 10 minutes setting everything up and testing it works.
  4. Quality – just because we're on the run doesn't mean we'll put up with bad quality audio. It needs to work!

Luckily, there's a great setup that meets all of these criteria, and it's not even very expensive!

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The Best Equipment Setup for In Person Interviews

Let's get straight into it – here's what you need to record a great in-person interview.

  1. 2 Lavalier or lapel microphones
  2. A decent, lightweight digital recorder or dictaphone
  3. A Headphone Splitter
  4. (optional) A 3.5mm jack extension cable.

Let's look at these in turn – the why and the what.

The Microphones – Lavalier or Lapel Mics

A lavalier microphone for podcasting. The rode smartlavThe most important part is the mic – this is what captures your voice and turns it digital after all. No doubt, if you're already Podcasting, you'll have a decent microphone at home. Or, if you're early in your career, you might still be using a decent headset mic as I normally recommend. Either way, neither will be ideal for out on the road. The normal mic will be big, bulky, sometimes fragile and always in need of a stand (unless it's like the Blue Yeti, but that's doesn't suit this context either). The headset mic might be portable, but you're going to feel a bit of an eejit sitting with one on in the coffee shop.

Lavalier microphones are the ones you see clipped to a speaker's shirt buttons or collar. They're tiny little microphones that sit about 6 inches below your mouth and do surprisingly well at isolating your voice.

Lapel microphones definitely fit our needs for being light and portable. They tend to be not more bulky than a little set of earbud headphones – just a wire with a 1 or 2cm bulb on the end really.

They're also good for our 2nd requirement: noise isolation. Because they sit so close to your mouth, you'll be a lot louder than the background noise. You'll get a nice bit of the background for atmosphere, but you'll be nice and clear to the listener.

Lastly, lavalier microphones can be great quality. If you get the right one there's no reason it has to be much worse than your big pro mic at home. In fact, spend enough and it can easily be better.

What Lavalier Microphone Should I Buy?

I'm going to keep this simple and only recommend one lav mic – the Audio Technica ATR-3350.

The ATR 3350 is a great little mic and it's very affordable, so I tend to think that it's not worth spending any more. There are higher priced microphones out there, and they might have an incremental increase in quality, but for most uses the ATR 3350 is just great. We've got a full review of the mic here, along with Matthew's recording setup, if you're interested.

If you want to explore some other lavalier options though, here's our full roundup.

Want to Record With Your Smartphone?

We're seeing more and more smartphone recording options on the market nowadays.

Our favourite mobile setup here at The Podcast Host is to use two Rode Smartlav+ mics plugged in via the Rode SC6 splitter.

This will record your audio directly onto your phone, which can be a very handy and convenient setup, which offers a decent level of sound quality.

For a premium-level sound quality though, it's worth considering using a dedicated digital recorder.

The Digital Recorder

digital podcast recorder zoom h4n

Good digital recorders don't cost the earth and they make up a pretty useful part of a larger Podcasting kit setup anyway, so it's often worth having one for other reasons too. The main requirement you'll have in a digital recorder is basic quality and the ability to plug in an external microphone. The former is just a requirement to at least get a good brand so that the recording quality is good, and the latter lets you plug in your fancy new lavalier microphone rather than using the internal microphone.

On that question, why not use the internal microphone on your digital recorder? Well, because that defies the law of noise isolation. A digital recorder sitting on the table between you is miles away from the course of both of your speaking and so you'll be quiet, drowned out and bad quality. You need those lavs.

I've written about digital recorders extensively elsewhere on this site, so I wont labour it, but my recommendations are either the Zoom H1 at a bargainous £60/$90 or the Zoom H4n at around double that. The latter is worth it only if you think you'll be using the great quality internal microphone on a regular basis (it does record pretty good quality group interviews in a quiet environment).

Ok, we now have some lavalier microphones and a digital recorder – how do we connect them together?

The Microphone Splitter

headphone splitterThe big barrier to great quality 1 on 1 interviews is that, most of the time, you can only get a mic close to one person at a time, or you have to pass the microphone or recorder between the speakers. Well, that's where a simple little splitter comes in.

As shown in the image opposite, a splitter is nothing more than something that lets two 3.5mm jacks go into one 3.5mm input. It just ‘splits' the input, allowing use by 2 devices. These cost next to nothing and there a range of them on Amazon or the like. You can even find some, like the Belkin, that can take 5 inputs, so if you have enough lavalier microphones and enough guests, you can have a huge round-robin and include a range of people.

Here's our guide to using lav mics with your Zoom H1 digital recorder.

The optional extension cable mentioned above comes in at this stage too because sometimes the cables on your lavalier microphones wont be quite long enough to allow you to sit at a comfortable distance from your interviewee. Just use an extension cable and you can sit as far away as you like and still achieve great audio quality.

Splitting in Stereo

There's a great little splitter called the HosaTech YMM-261 (audio equipment names never roll off the tongue, do they?).

This will split your sides of the conversation into the left and right channels of a stereo track, giving your more control and options when it comes to editing your interviews.

An Example Final Setup

A Podcast interview recording setupThe picture opposite shows an example setup using an old Sony Recorder that I still break out from time to time (one of the smallest and lightest I've ever found that still does good audio) plugged into two lavalier microphones.

If you connect everything up like this, sit the recorder on the table and the lavalier microphones on each person's shirt, you'll be recording amazing quality interviews in no time.

On that note, I'd love to hear from examples of you putting this setup into action. If you record something using this type of setup, please do let me know in the comments below. I'd love to include some example clips from around the web to demonstrate different setups and the quality you can achieve. I look forward to hearing from you.

And remember, we've got loads of equipment setup tutorials, as well as regular live Q&A inside The Podcast Host Academy. We'd love to see you in there!

Discussion:

  1. Tim on 6th November 2014 at 6:31 pm

    Why can’t you plug that setup into a smartphone? What keeps it from working? Does this record the audio on only one track?

    • Colin Gray on 6th November 2014 at 8:36 pm

      Hi Tim, good question.

      I’m afraid smartphones generally need a special jack to work with a 3.5mm microphone, so this setup wouldn’t work with one. You do get mics that work with a smartphone, such as the Rode Smartlav, but the splitter doesn’t have the right type of 3.5mm jack to make it work.

      You can tell a smartphone compatible jack as it has an extra black band on the metal part. It’s called a TRRS jack and has 3 sections on the tip. This is because smartphones usually only have headphones plugged into the input, so, as well as the stereo headphone connection, it needs an extra connection on that jack to accommodate the microphone connection at the same time.

      Saying that, you do get adapters which allow you to plug a normal 3.5mm mic into a smartphone, by converting it to a TRRS connection. Such as this adapter. I’ll be honest, I haven’t tried that myself so can’t absolutely guarantee it’ll work, but I don’t think there’s any reason it wouldn’t. I think I might give it a shot now, though, since you’ve got me thinking!

      Thanks again for the question Tim – hope this helps.

      Colin

  2. Chinedu Akuta on 12th November 2014 at 8:37 pm

    I have found this article (recording face to face to useful).Thanks. Please where can I buy the lavalier microphones extension cables please

  3. Todd on 29th November 2014 at 4:04 am

    Just getting into audio/video and have a few basic questions:

    – Our equipment is 2x AT899 lavalier mics; new Tascam DR-70d audio recorder; Canon 70D dslr; Adobe Audion and Premier Pro. We’ll be doing much more 2 person audio interviewing than video interviews.

    – We just got the equipment and are toying with it. 90% of what we’ll do will be 2-person interviews with subjects sitting next to each other. I’ve been reading and it looks like we want to record in mono. Each person’s lav will be on a separate channel.

    Questions:
    1) Is mono what we want to record in for interviews? Seems like it but double checking. Also, setting the mic input on the field recorder to “center” instead of left or right. Is that what we need to do?

    2) this new Tascam records beautifully. The omnidirectional mics are picking some low level or muffled portions of the vocals of the other person. Is that a problem since we’ve got each person mic’d?

    3) I haven’t explored much with dropping these tracks in Audition. Do I just drop each audio track into a separate track in Audition, tweak each at will, and save as one sound file?

    Sorry these are rookie questions. Getting up to speed on terminology too. Please advise on challenges you see. Any help you can offer is welcomed 😉

    • Colin Gray on 4th December 2014 at 1:44 pm

      Hey Todd, thanks for getting in touch. Let’s see if I can help:

      1. Yep, definitely. No need for stereo on a Podcast ever really, except if you’re doing something pretty unique. I tend to record myself on one channel (left) and other people on the right, but not all recorders offer that chance. If your recorder doesn’t, then just keep it center and you can turn it to mono in post-production.
      2. It’s not really a problem, as long as you’re using both mics in the final output. The person’s main audio will override that that is recorded from the other mic. It’s not really possible to isolate each person if you’re sitting opposite each other with Lav mics anyway. Are you finding it’s harming the quality?
      3. Yes, that’s it exactly 🙂 Just keep each person on a separate track and you can then process them as needed, with EQ, compression, etc.

      Not rookie question at all Todd, all great stuff. The main challenge in that type of situation is background noise. A little background noise for athmosphere is fine (called actuality in the radio biz) but too much is obviously a bad thing, drowning you out. Just keep an ear out for annoying noises like squeaking chairs, air con or jangling keys. They’re the ones you can ignore when you’re in the situation, but which hugely show up on recordings. Let me know how you get on!

  4. Davis Jones on 6th February 2015 at 10:07 pm

    Great article!

  5. Sam on 3rd August 2015 at 12:12 am

    This is a brilliant and helpful article . . . so excited to get out there and starting recording some podcasts. Thanks for the help and the information.

  6. Erlend on 8th January 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Great article.

    I am probably a bit paranoid that something might happen with the recording during an interview (ie. stops, doesn’t work)

    If you were to have a “backup” recorder while using this setup, what would you recommend?

    Another digital recorder running at the same time?

    • Matthew @ ThePodcastHost.com on 11th January 2016 at 12:59 pm

      Hi Erlend, I think we all suffer from that paranoia now and then eh. The best thing is to have two recorders, so one running as a backup. But if you don’t have two recorders – and they can be pretty expensive to buy – then you can use your phone. Most smartphones nowadays have really decent audio recorders in them, so you can sit it on the table and leave it running. Or you can go one step further and use ‘smart lav’ microphones to record a backup interview through your phone. Hopefully that gives you a few ideas, and let me know how you get on if you decide to try any.

  7. Mike on 29th January 2016 at 5:11 pm

    GREAT article! Thanks so much for the advice! I just ordered the Zoom H1 and 2 Audio Technica ATR-3350s for my new aviation podcast, Why We Fly. I recently published the first 4 episodes which I recorded at home, but I need a setup like this to record interviews with other pilots in the field. I just didn’t know what specific equipment to go with. This should work great! Thanks again!

    • Matthew McLean on 1st February 2016 at 10:03 am

      Been working with the ATR-3350s myself recently Mike. Very impressed with them. Planning to do a full review now. Good luck with the new podcast!

  8. Dave on 1st February 2016 at 9:43 am

    How do you keep each person on a separate track when you are using a splitter cable? Won’t the sound be “mixed” onto the recorder?

    • Matthew McLean on 3rd February 2016 at 1:48 pm

      Hi Dave, yeah you’re right it wouldn’t be possible to split into two channels unless you used a recorder with separate inputs like the Zoom H5.

  9. Thomas on 3rd February 2016 at 6:16 am

    Hi, Colin,

    Just found the article–thanks for all the great info and especially the links! That is how I aspire to present info to interested parties.

    Quick question: do you have any experience with wireless lavs in the prosumer range? I would like to be able to do interviews while moving about, walking, etc.

    Thanks!

    • Colin Gray on 3rd February 2016 at 2:09 pm

      Hey Thomas, thanks for the contact.

      Yes, this is definitely something work thinking about if you have the budget. And that budget needs to be pretty big… I haven’t tested that many, but from what I’ve found so far, low-cost products in the wireless area can be really bad. There are options to get wireless lavs for low 100s, but they can be really variable.

      The ones I’ve used are from Sennheisser – very similar to this: http://amzn.to/1PUrwvH – and around that cost. Now considering that’s actually just for one microphone, you can see it’s pretty costly.

      On the plus side, this is what the BBC use to film interviews out on location, so you know it’ll do the job in your own context! Just like you, they need something that allows totally free movement, doesn’t get in the way, etc.

      Hope that helps!
      Colin

  10. Jenna on 4th March 2016 at 7:14 pm

    Does this set up easily load onto your laptop?
    How do you assess the recording, cut and paste it once it’s been recorded? I use Screenflow.

    • Matthew McLean on 9th March 2016 at 2:57 pm

      It does Jenna. If you’re recording into a digital recorder like a Zoom you can transfer the file onto your laptop with a USB cable, or by inserting the memory card. Have you had a look at Audacity, which is a great (free) audio recording/editing program http://www.audacityteam.org/

  11. Wil on 18th April 2016 at 1:20 pm

    Thanks for the info!
    I have onequestion: is power an issue?
    In particular, if I have two condenser mics that need power from the recorder, is it going to be a problem? Is it more likely to be ok with dynamic mics?

    I see that your example used ATR3350s (condensers), but they take batteries, which might be a factor.

    Thanks so much!

    • Matthew McLean on 19th April 2016 at 3:26 pm

      Hi there. It depends on which recorder you’re using? Something like the Zoom H5 is equipped to supply phantom power to 2 condenser mics, but this wouldn’t be possible with the H1 (unless it’s self powered mics like the 3350s, as you point out)

  12. May on 25th June 2016 at 2:01 am

    Hi there, Thank you for this great information! I have a couple questions for you…

    1. I have purchased the Blue Snowball mic and I also have audacity..I have been able to record straight into audacity with my Blue mic but i dont have a digital recorder. Is this an ok process?

    2. I am doing my first interview with a local artist and am a little nervous because i am not sure if the blue microphone will be sufficient for both of us. Any tips you might have?

    • Matthew McLean on 29th June 2016 at 9:23 am

      Hi May,

      1. Yes, absolutely.

      2. If you have the Blue Snowball iCE then it’ll be a little cosy as you’ll both need to sit close together and talk into the front of the mic. If you have the regular Blue Snowball though, change the polar pattern setting to ‘omnidirectional’ and you can both sit on either side of the mic.

      Hope that helps!

  13. Matt Cleary on 20th July 2016 at 2:14 am

    Hi Colin – thanks for all this, very interesting stuff.

    Can you advise please … I’m a journalist and I have an idea to conduct interviews while walking around the golf course (as one does). If I were to put a lapel / lavalier microphone on the Talent … how close would I need to be for my voice to be heard on the microphone? And given wind and suchforth… what do you think about that in terms of sound quality? Or should I stump up for wireless transmitting device(s).

    • Matthew McLean on 20th July 2016 at 11:18 am

      Hi Matt. You’d ideally want to use two lav mics for this to make sure you’ll always be heard. An ideal setup would be two ATR3350 lav mics running into the Zoom H5 – though you can also use something like a Zoom H1 (with a 3.5mm input) if you run your lav mics through a splitter.

      Sounds like an interesting venture doing the golf course interviews. Is it golf pros you’ll be speaking to?

      • Matt Cleary on 26th March 2018 at 10:47 am

        Well – only nearly two years since I’ve bothered to give you a reply. Sorry Matthew – I flat out forgot and just continued to forget. Only remembered because I was idly Googling myself. Ha. .

        But thanks so much for your detailed Reply. I’ll take that very much on board. And let you know how it goes. .

        To answer your question, not golf pros per se, but professional sportsman who like to play golf. It’s everyone’s second game.

        Thanks again.

        Cheers, Matt

  14. Tara on 7th August 2016 at 5:59 am

    I found this article to be super informative. I’m a TOTAL newbie to this and basically just went to Amazon and ordered everything that you linked to, haha.

    One question though – do you have a recommendation for what recording software to use? Audition vs Audacity vs Garageband?

    Thanks so much for sharing your expertise!!

    • Matthew McLean on 8th August 2016 at 8:37 am

      Hi Tara. I use both Audition and Audacity. Audition is a hugely flexible and powerful programme, but it’s also pretty expensive. If your podcast is predominately spoken word content (not like a documentary or audio drama style show) then I’d go with Audacity. You can always upgrade to something like Audition or Reaper further down the line if you feel you need to!

  15. Alice on 2nd November 2016 at 3:45 am

    Hi Colin,

    Thanks for the article, it’s very useful for newbies like me 🙂

    I intend to record one-on-one interviews in a room that has echo but no background noise. I would then like to use the recording in a speech recognition software.

    I tried to use a digital recorder (Philips DVT6500 Voice Tracer) but it didn’t work because the quality wasn’t good enough to get the software working properly.

    Do you think your setup would work in that case ? Or should I try an array microphone like this one https://www.acousticmagic.com/products/voice-tracker-ii-details/ ?

    You might not be able to answer but I am trying just in case 😉
    Thanks for your help !

  16. Glenn on 29th November 2016 at 3:33 am

    I can see how that setup with the lapel mics and digital recorder is ideal for noisy environments (i.e. coffee shops, outside, etc.). But if I’m on the road, I plan to be in someone’s home or office. In that case, would a cheaper solution be to buy an omnidirectional mic and plug it straight into my laptop (or smartphone)? Thanks.

    • Matthew McLean on 29th November 2016 at 2:32 pm

      Hi Glenn, if you’re looking to record with a single mic then something with an omnidirectional or bidirectional polar pattern would be ideal yes. What was your budget?

      • Glenn Zweig on 29th November 2016 at 4:51 pm

        I’m just trying to figure out the best solution for my purposes. The more affordable, the better (so long as it’s not a big tradeoff in quality). Is this digital recorder + 2 lapel mics a good budget solution for interviewing remotely but in a quiet space (i.e. someone’s home or office)? In my home studio, I have the ATR 2100. I could bring that on the road but then I would need a 2nd mic (either a 2nd directional mic so we each have one or an omnidirectional condenser mic that we could share) since passing a single mic back and forth for an hour interview doesn’t work. Also, since this article was written a couple years ago, have there been any tech advances such that I can use my iphone to do the recording vs buying a separate digital recorder?

  17. Michele on 6th January 2017 at 9:53 pm

    Just wondering if you could use the lav mikes and splitter plugged right into your laptop. Any reason why I couldn’t do that?

    • Matthew McLean on 9th January 2017 at 10:00 am

      No reason why you can’t do that Michele. As it’s a 3.5mm plug though the sound quality will largely depend on the quality of your computer’s sound card.

  18. L Hank on 8th January 2017 at 11:36 pm

    Thanks for this article, Colin! It’s super helpful. I’m wondering: could I use a lavalier for the interviewee and use the internal mic from my Zoom H4N for my own recording? (Instead of 2 lavaliers?) Or will the sound of our voices be totally different/weird?

    • L Hank on 9th January 2017 at 5:45 pm

      Oh right, of course. Thanks!

    • Matthew McLean on 9th February 2017 at 12:30 pm

      You could actually get this working by selecting the 4CH setting in your recorder, though there might be a big difference in audio quality between the two recordings.

  19. Marvin on 20th January 2017 at 12:54 am

    Thank you for the article. If I have a setup such as this:

    – Zoom H4N PRO
    – 2 Audio-Technica ATR3350 Lav Mics
    – 3.5 mm Stereo Jack Splitter

    Is it possible to record each mic on a separate track so that I can edit each voice, independently, in case someone coughs or something? I can’t see how this is possible since most recorders, like the Zoom H4N Pro, only take one 3.5mm input. Would I have to buy a 3.5mm input -> XLR adapter for each mic and user the H4N’s XLR inputs to achieve this? Is there some odd trickery I can do with the 3.5mm input to have one voice on the left stereo track and the other voice on the right track? Any help would be much appreciated.

    • Matthew McLean on 24th January 2017 at 12:27 pm

      Hi Marvin, what you’ll want to do is connect each lav mic to the XLR/combo ports via a mono 3.5mm to 1/4″ adapter. That way you’ll be recording both mics on their independent tracks.

  20. Peter B on 8th February 2017 at 3:19 pm

    Great article. I’ve got an additional tip for your readers that I think they’ll find helpful.

    Rather than using a regular splitter for your lavalier mics, the Hosa YMM-261 splitter cable (less than $6) can split them into a left and right channel so digital recorders with stereo inputs (like the Zoom H1 and H2N) can record one person on the left channel and another on the right channel.

    This allows you to edit each channel in post production. Just make each of the left and right channels into their own mono channel. Now you can adjust the gain if you’ve got a quiet talker.

    There’s a tiny bit of cross-talk between the left and right, but it’s slight enough that It’s worked great for me.

    I’m probably not allowed to post links here, so just search Amazon for Hosa YMM-261 3.5 mm TRS to Dual 3.5 mm TSF Stereo Breakout Cable.

    By the way, great blog. Just discovering it for the first time.

    • Matthew McLean on 8th February 2017 at 4:29 pm

      Thanks Peter! Will order one in right away for a look.

  21. Anima on 1st June 2018 at 6:34 am

    Thank you guys. This article helped me a lot.
    I got the Zoom H1N , a splitter and 2 Boya M1 mics.
    There are on my way to me. I’m quite optimistic.
    cheers.

  22. Tim on 4th August 2018 at 4:07 pm

    Hello!

    You cant use the regular lavilar mics with the smartphone but can the Smarlavs be used with a regular recorder?

  23. Åse tynning on 6th September 2018 at 10:02 am

    Thank you for a very good article! I have two questions:
    1. How do I set this up for three persons?
    2. This article is written i 2016, is it still up-to-date? Or are there news elsewhere we should know about?

    Kindly, Åse Tynning, Norway

  24. Andrew on 7th September 2018 at 6:39 pm

    I’m having trouble finding a splitter. They all seem to be dual head phones (output) or a microphone and head phone.

    I’m assuming I need a splitter that takes two microphones.

    I was looking on Amazon.

    The link in the article seems to point back to this page, so I wondered if you could point me in th direction of a good splitter, please?

    Thanks for such a great article.

    Andrew

  25. Candi on 14th September 2018 at 6:45 am

    Hi, I’m echoing a question that a couple others have asked. This article mentioned getting a multi splitter if I wanted to attach additional lav mics, but I haven’t been able to track down the Belkin option referenced and Amazon seems to mostly have headphone splitters. Can you suggest a splitter for 3 or more mics? Thanks. From just browsing casually on your blog, it’s very practical, detailed info.

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Colin Gray

Colin has been teaching people how to podcast since 2007. He's worked with Universities, businesses and hobbyists alike. He started The Podcast Host to share his experience and to help as many people as possible get into Podcasting. He runs Podcraft, to spread the art of podcasting, and does the Mountain Bikes Apart podcast whenever he can. Who doesn't like to talk bikes, after all!

July 19th 2017